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I'm sitting here this evening with candidate
for precinct two

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county commissioner.

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Uh his name is Gail Frey.

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Thank you, Mr.

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Frayne, for joining us and uh taking the time
out

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to uh find out a little bit more about your

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candidacy and what uh you know what motivates
you.

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Absolutely, thank you for having me.

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All right, wonderful.

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Now, precinct two covers what he commissioner

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precinct two covers all of Carrollton, the
colony, and for

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some weird reason the district is drawn in a
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where it reaches over the waters of Lewisville
Lake and

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grabs Corinth.

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So it's a pretty small geographically a pretty
small area

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of Denton County.

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But it is all of Carrollton, and the largest
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density within this precinct two is going to
be the

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Carleton area.

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I see.

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And your uh opponent in this race is uh

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well-known uh candidate that we're at and uh
you said

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that he was the is he the current mayor of

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oh no, so uh Kevin Falconer was the mayor of

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Carrollton for I would say almost a decade for
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some time.

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He's very well known in the area, which is why

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it's pretty interesting the way that I would
say they

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kind of I don't know if the word jurymander is

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too strong to use or not, but it is
interesting

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that they changed the map before Kevin's
election and they

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made it focus on specifically Carrollton, as I
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a very geographical district.

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So it's also very blue.

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And I think that's why they tried to create
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would look like a democratic stronghold, but
had a Republican

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who was the mayor for a long time run for

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that position.

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Okay, so at that point when, Kevin Faulkner
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mayor, the mayor is considered to be a
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position.

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So when he ran for county commissioners when
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to choose which party and he sided with uh the

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Republican Party.

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Okay.

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And so you have some uh positions that uh you

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are advocating for strongly.

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Yes, and you think that it uh uh Democrats
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to hear about them.

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Yeah.

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What are they?

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Sure, and and this is gonna focus about the
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why the Democrats are pushing to try to flip
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Deton County Commissioner's court.

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Uh the reason is because we want countywide
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election day.

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Some people call these voting centers.

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I think that probably sounds confusing.

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So I'm gonna continue from this point going
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call it countywide voting on election day.

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And what I mean by that is that right now,

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during their early voting period, you can vote
anywhere in

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the county, anywhere within Denton County, you
can vote.

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This polling location go there, you can vote.

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However, on election day itself, that's not
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On election day itself, you have to vote only
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your one registered voting location.

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Right.

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This confuses a lot of people because the last
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to vote is the election day.

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So you have to understand, by the way, about
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number of people who vote during early voting,
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amount of those people who vote in the entire
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voting period tend to show up on voting day.

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So it's a very intense day with a lot of

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people traffic.

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Now, we have seen around 11 to 15 percent of

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people getting redirected on the last day to
vote on

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voting day because of the fact that we don't
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countywide voting on that day.

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And we've heard stories from election workers
talk about how

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they've been in college kids out there who
say, like,

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oh, I gotta get the class.

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I I I I can't I can't make that.

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Uh there was another story of a guy who had

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to be hydraulically lifted out of his car

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He's on a wheelchair on a breathing machine,
goes in

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to the voting location, gets told, I'm sorry,
sir, you

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can't vote here.

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You have to go somewhere else.

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So we we Democrats humbly believe that this is
voter

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suppression.

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Because it confuses people.

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And this honestly, I don't believe there's any
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this.

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Because over a hundred other counties in Texas
have countywide

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voting on election day.

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So unfortunately, it seems that the GOP,
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the Denton County Republican Party, who's led
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Melinda Preston, wants to go the other way.

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Melinda Preston had her way, Melinda Preston,
by the way,

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is the uh D, I'm sorry, the RNC chair for

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Denton County.

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Okay.

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So kind of like Delia Parker Minnesota is the
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leader for Democrats.

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Um, who's the uh uh Melinda Preston is the
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for the Republicans of Dent County.

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Okay, and she on multiple occasions has shown
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the Benton County Commissioner's court, and
she's constantly advocated to

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go the other way around.

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If she had her way, we wouldn't have
countywide voting

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even during early voting.

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Okay.

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So that's what her party is pushing for.

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So is this a uh county decision uh to have

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uh countywide versus uh center voting?

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Yes, so every county gets to decide its own
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and when does that when can that decision be
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Well, it can they meet every Tuesday at uh I

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believe at 8 a.m.

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every Tuesday, and uh someone can make a
motion.

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Any one of the commissioners can make a motion
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do so and go in that direction.

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All the commissioners right now, including the
county judge, are

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Republican, and because they don't want to
violate their own

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party, I I humbly think that the Deputy County
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understand.

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I I think deep

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inside in their hearts, think they do know
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kind of crazy to not have countywide voting on
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day.

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But I'm willing to bet the reason they don't
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in that direction is because they're worried
about getting primaried,

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since after all the head of their party is
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that they go the other way.

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Are there uh any other positions that you're
strongly advocating?

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Yeah, so we also oversee the budget in Denton
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as well, uh, the commissioners do.

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And there are other things I want to advocate
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like Meals on Wheels, for example, that gives
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to elderly individuals who you know can't
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to the grocery store themselves.

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Uh there's a couple of uh other things with
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care that I would like to send money to as

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well.

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Meals on wheels is what one of the main ones.

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Uh, should have mentioned this earlier because
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Ernest Leinberger, he's uh a chair member of
that organization.

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Um but there's there is that there is the fact

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that we need to make sure that the opioid
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that we've been given by the state needs to be

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fully allocated.

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Uh from what I understand, there's been quite
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with that.

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So essentially the the state has given money
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county uh to handle the opioid crisis.

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And uh that needs to go to health care.

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I believe that Judge Eads was pushing more to
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towards uh prevention, basically trying to uh
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I guess police force or whatever prevention
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And you think that it needs to work?

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It needs to go more towards uh towards health
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services and centers that help people with
addiction.

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Okay.

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And um do you think you can impact that uh

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on a is it a uh fully Republican core?

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It is right now, but there's an opportunity
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Democratic Party to flip the Duncan County
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time.

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Right.

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the So each commissioner holds the term for
four years

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and judge does as well.

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And it happens to be that two of the
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and the judge are up for re-election in this
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2056 midterm election.

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So there's only four commissioners and one
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So that means three of the five positions are
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for re-election.

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Okay.

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So what we're advocating for as the Democratic
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We're trying to flip.

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If we can flip all three of those positions,
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the Democrats gain control of the court, and
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finally get our countywide voting on election
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What is the strategy at this time to flip?

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Yeah, so for precinct two uh it's basically
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here right now.

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We're actually at the uh Carleton Democratic
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of making sure that people know who I am and

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know what the positions are.

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Right.

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And it's also it's really important for me to
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kind of block walk and introduce myself to uh
Carrollton

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residents because I mean, for one, um the pop
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major population density is near in Carlton.

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And for two, it's because let's be honest
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uh Mr.

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Faulkner's been the mayor of Carrollton for
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So it's the struggle is gonna probably be here
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I've talked to other Democrats and they know
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My pastor at my church has met Kevin before.

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Right.

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Now people know this guy, and I need to tell

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people who I am and what I'm running for.

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I want to need to make sure that everyone
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that I'm not gonna mudsling uh I respect the
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I'm it's nothing personal, it's solely about
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we're advocating for.

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Main one being countywide voting on election
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So now um what if because it has been the

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playbook of Republicans all across the
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uh national or local, that um some say some

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propaganda is used.

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Uh maybe some dirty politics uh uh come into
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or they change the narrative to uh not to talk

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specifically about the issues, but about
issues that have no

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uh impact upon what your job will be.

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How do you deal with that?

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Yeah, sure.

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So I'll be honest with you, in this particular
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I don't think there's much of a danger for
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I I I've I've seen Kevin speak, I've I know

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a lot of people who know Kevin, and uh he's

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not that kind of candidate who does that.

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Uh actually most of the commissioners are are
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McRae said that all the commissioners,
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are very humble.

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Um there they have had mean things said to
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and I've seen the way they handle it.

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So I don't think there's in this particular
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it's kind of unique, but I don't think there's
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of a danger for that in this particular race.

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But when it does come up, you always have to

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like throw it over your shoulder and just
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the policies.

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Because I I have seen in the past uh
Republicans

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will try to advocate based on your feelings
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talking more about the policy decisions.

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I would say that Republicans don't necessarily
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this, they think more with this, they think
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gut, they think with their feelings.

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And that's where I think that we see a lot

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of this kind of rhetoric uh and and a lot

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of other Republican races used, is because
it's more difficult

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to lift up people and it's easier to get
people

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agitated if they're filed up and angry.

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As long as people feel the agitation in their
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they can get misdirected very easily.

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But the way that we Democrats combat that is
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going back to the policies.

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Like I said with Kevin, it's nothing personal.

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It's about the policies that we're at that we
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Democrats advocate for.

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You mentioned meals on wheels

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Yes.

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Did you say or believe that there has been a

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delay in the funding of meals on wheels?

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No, I just want to make sure that they
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to get their funding.

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I think if anything, we probably would maybe
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the amount of money that they get.

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Okay.

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So Meals on Wheels, for those who don't know,
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an organization that gets food out to elderly
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are physically incapable of getting to the
grocery store themselves.

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It only costs about five dollars a meal.

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And the meals are actually delivered by
volunteers.

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So we don't even pay for the food delivery
service.

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We're just paying for the meals.

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And you know, like I I just believe that if

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we can support, you know, all the fireworks
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have, which are very beautiful, then we should
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able to support our elderly individuals.

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A good chunk of these individuals, by the way,
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also veterans as well.

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So when I see things like the VA being
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by the current administration, things like
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believe that hurts uh a major demographic in
this area.

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So it's just one thing that I believe we need

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to support and support more.

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What about uh health care uh regarding your
constituents?

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What do you see is the biggest uh deficiency,
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the biggest thing that you could help and and
make

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it uh more positive for individuals, health
care.

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Yeah, so when it comes to health care, what
the

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county commissioners can do is they they do
oversee the

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funding for the county, and so they can send
some

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of the uh the money towards uh organizations
that help

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people uh with with health care.

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I personally think that when it comes to
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mental health, that not having a very good.
public transportation

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system can hurt people in certain areas

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I understand that we have telehealth, but
telehealth can only

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work so well.

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My pastor was actually trying to work on this
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he knows a couple of people who were having
some

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mental health issues.

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He's saying, like, man, like because they
don't have cars,

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they can't see these types of individuals who
can help

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them with their crises that they go through
and things

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like that.

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Okay.

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So a lot of these people feel as if they

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are they're very helpless.

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But there's that.

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There's also, like I said, um, sending the
opiate funding

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to uh addiction uh centers that helps those
with

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addiction and and and all of that.

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It's it's a very serious issue of health care
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Texas has more uninsured individuals than any
other state in

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the country.

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And we're also the commissioners court can't
do anything about

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this, but I'll just plug this real quick.

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Right.

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Uh is the Medicaid expansion program.

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It's more of a uh statewide uh issue, but
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not part of the Medicaid expansion program.

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And what that is, by the way, is a big

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giant money bucket that we all spend money
into through

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our federal taxes.

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So we Texas put money in this bucket, and
money

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flows from this bucket to states in the United
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but not back here in Texas, because we're not
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of the Medicaid expansion program.

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We're losing 10 billion, billion with a B
dollars a

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year.

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That's how much we spend into this bucket.

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It does not come back here.

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City Texans pay for medical programs in
California.

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We Texas pay for medical programs in New
Jersey, but

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not back here at home, all because the
governor hasn't

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vetoed uh us joining the Medicaid expansion
program.

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Yeah, it's interesting.

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Yeah, uh, Mr.

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Dale Frey, we're talking with Mr.

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Dale Frey, who is a candidate uh for the
county

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commissioner, uh, precinct two.

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And uh, one last question, Mr

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Frey, I would like to for you to uh discuss

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or name the areas that you uh would represent.

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And got one last question for you regarding
law enforcement.

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I do know that you, the county commissioner
has some

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say as far as law enforcement is concerned.

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And what are you what is your vision regarding
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as far as your constituents?

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Yeah, sure.

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So to answer your first question, uh the areas
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precinct two for the commissioners is all of
Carrollton, the

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colony where I live, and then it reaches
across the

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water of Luisville Lake and grabs Corinth.

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So it's it's those three areas and a little
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of the edges around those areas as well.

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Okay.

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Now, when it comes to law enforcement, this
has been

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an interesting thing that I've been going over
with some

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of my colleagues about.

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So with the power structure, commissioners
can't really tell

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the sheriff what to do or what or what not

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to do.

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The sheriff is elected and the sheriff has
more power

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in that area.

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But the county commissioners can supply
leverage by because they

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do control the funding.

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So while the sheriff does get the final say
when

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it comes to certain logistics, the
commissioners are the ones

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who will essentially be funding the sheriff
and the programs

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that the sheriff uh utilizes.

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One last question.

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This really will be the one last question.

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What's the most unprecedented thing that
you've seen happen in

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the last two years, whether locally or
nationally, so unprecedented

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that you've never seen it in your lifetime?

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Good question.

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If I could respond with a graphic, I would
come

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back with that Simpsons meme.

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There's a Simpsons meme where Bart says, Man,
I'm having

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I'm having the worst day of my life.

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And Homer comes up and says, You're having the
worst

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day of your life so far

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I respond with that because in terms of the
crazy

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stuff that's going on day by day, I can tell

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you what it is so far.

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Uh huh.

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It's actually the more recent one.

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We had a state house representative in the
House chamber,

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was told that she had to sign a paper that

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would allow a DPS officer, a federal officer,
to follow

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her around and make sure that she shows up to

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this the House the next day.

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All the meanwhile, by the way, like she has to

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pay for the services, by the way.

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And she said, No, I'm not gonna sign that.

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Right.

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And they said, All right, well, we're gonna
basically incarcerate

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you inside of the House chamber.

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This is kidnapping.

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I think the legal terminology would be false
imprisonment, false

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imprisonment.

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And it's insane to see this kind of stuff
happen

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to a lawmaker.

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This is someone who's been elected by her
constituents.

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This is someone who has the power to make the

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laws of the land, and she's basically being
incarcerated by

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the legislature.

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Okay.

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That is absolutely insane.

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And this is where I feel like government is
starting

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to break down.

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It's just absolutely crazy.

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Because when you're doing this to lawmakers,
if this is

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allowed to pass as is, if this becomes
normalized, I

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fear for what's next.

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Okay, and uh to coin a phrase, you ain't seen

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nothing yet.

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Uh hope that it doesn't occur that way, but uh

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really want to thank you, uh, Mr.

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Dale Frey, who's running for County
Commissioner, Precinct 2, and

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God speak to you, and I hope. you have much

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success in actually advocating and putting
into effect what it

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is you see

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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Nice to see you.

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Okay.