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MAGA movement right now because the right wing
is really

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eating itself alive.

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And it's a direct consequence of the choices
they made

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years ago.

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Now, there is this group called Groipers.

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These are white nationalist America-first kind
of nativists who follow,

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to a degree, Holocaust denying anti-Semite
Nick Fuentes.

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And they are tearing apart the establishment
conservatives.

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Now, Nick Fuentes, you might remember, was
once welcomed to

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dinner by Donald Trump at Mar-a-Lago.

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Trump later denounced him or said he doesn't
know anything

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about it or whatever.

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And Fuentes now represents a faction that is
cannibalizing figures

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like Ben Shapiro and Ted Cruz and others who
kind

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of spent years really building the modern
right.

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And the funny thing about this is that we
warned

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them that this would happen.

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You know, for a decade, we've been sounding
the alarm.

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This is the direction Trumpism is heading.

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The extremism that is festering is going to
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problem even for them.

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And for a decade, the right would just laugh
it

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off and they would go, you guys on the left

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are hysterical, you're crying liberal tears,
everything's fine.

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These groupers aren't gonna build any
significant power.

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And so they made a choice.

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They embraced Trump.

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Uh, despite it being pretty damn clear who
Trump was,

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they bent the knee, they uh thought we can
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this so it doesn't become a catastrophe, and
they were

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catastrophically wrong.

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And so now we have a conservative
establishment that thought

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they could ride this tiger of Trumpism and
populism uh

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uh into um uh a movement that they would
recognize,

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and they thought we can use these forces just
for

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the things we like.

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It'll be used for tax cuts, it'll be used for

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judges, you know, Trump will push ahead
regulations, uh d

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deregulation, but they could keep the
wackiness at arm's length,

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they could keep the Fuentes and all of that
stuff

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at arm's length.

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But history tells us that this is not how
radicalization

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works.

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Once you allow a movement that foments
conspiracy theories and

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platforms voices that overtly traffic and
dehumanization and bigotry becomes

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acceptable as long as it's the right bigotry,
you can

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lose control of where it goes.