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Welcome, welcome to the to Political Musings.

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I'm your host, Amy Manuel.

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And my guest today is Del Fry.

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Dale is in a runoff for Texas Senate District
SD

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30.

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Welcome to the show, Dale.

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Thank you for having me.

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The theme for today's show is Cartoon
Villains.

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As we just heard, Cruella Deville.

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The theme song to 101 or from

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101 Dalmatians.

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Cruella's theme song.

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And I I am stunned that

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we are talking about killing puppies.

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That kind of they actually bragged about this.

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What what what are your thoughts, Dale?

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Yeah, that that's kind crazy.

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It's crazy to think that we're here right now
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we're at.

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But uh apparently that happened.

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And and look, I mean, I I I do want

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to tell everyone in the audience, you know, I
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I don't live in a rural area myself, but one

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of my friends does.

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And he was telling me that, you know, when you

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have an animal, like he has a couple of
horses,

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for example.

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He says, like when we have a horse, uh, you

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know, and he needs to be put down, like
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in the rural areas, everyone knows a
veterinarian, especially if

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you have animals like horses and whatnot.

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Um there's actually multiple veterinarians
veterinarians in his community.

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And he says, hey, look, like a vet a vet

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will come and they'll give them two shots.

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One shot to make them fall asleep, and another
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to stop their heart.

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Um he's like, it c he says it costs like

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20 bucks, right?

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Um he says the concept of having to shoot your

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animal, it's not a thing.

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Like this isn't the 1950s anymore.

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Like in the real world in this day and age,

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like there are humane ways that ranchers do
use.

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Uh so the concept that this woman would
actually shoot

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her dog, I mean, it's it's so out there that

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it's almost hard for me to almost it's hard
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me to swallow this pill and actually believe
that it's

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real.

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Like I sometimes wonder if she's just like
making something

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up or because it it's's just crazy.

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Not to mention, like as a politician.

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I mean, shes a politician.

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s Every everyone who runs

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for office understand that anything that you
can't, anything that

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you say can and will be held against you in

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a court of public uh in a court of public

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opinion.

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So admitting or here's the thing for me.

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Here's the thing for me.

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This story is written in a book, and then
there's

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an audio book, so then she told the story, and

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no one not the probably ghostwriter for her
book,

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not the editor for her book, not the publisher
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her book, not the person working in the booth,
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any of her political advisors.

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No one said, Hey, maybe don't brag about
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puppy in the face.

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Her defense this weekend, when she went on the
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know, Saturday and Sunday shows, on the
weekend shows, was

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to then say, well, wasn't a puppy.

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Fourteen months.

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So in human years, that's like a 10-year-old,
12-year-old kid.

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That's still a kid.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, look, I I I can't get inside of her

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head.

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It is pretty shocking that um, I mean, it it's

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it's okay, look, it's shocking but not
shocking.

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It's shocking to think that we're here at this
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right now, at the same time, too.

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Um, there's like a new word that I've added to

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my vocabulary called the attention economy.

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Um the with the concept of the attention
economy that

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even the the concept here is you can't say the

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word infamous without saying famous.

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In the end of the day, she's grabbed people's
attention.

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Now, I would think it's in a negative way.

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Um, but people are talking about her.

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Like it it in the end of the day there

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are people who who who run for office and care

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very much about their social media presence.

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And if anything, technically speaking, maybe
she's actually I

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hate to say that maybe she she's actually
winning right

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now.

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Because in the end of the day she maybe she

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wants people to know her name.

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Maybe she wants name recognition.

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Albeit I think a name recognition with
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But I there I think there are some Emily but

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like there is no world in which shooting

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a puppy in the face I agree with you.

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I I agree with you.

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In no world is that a because dog owners are

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not Democrats.

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Dog owners are people Yeah every people who
have dogs

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love their dogs.

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And the thing like be cruel to a dog and

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and that's that's the end on both sides of the

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aisle.

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Yeah, no like look I'm I'm agreeing with you.

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I'm not trying to defend her.

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I'm just somehow trying to rationalize it
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a really crazy situation.

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So I'm trying to think to myself why on earth